Congrats!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jeff
yes...'tis true.
i have finally reached the apex of my career here on this forum.
today i became:
Congrats!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jeff
i have an idea on how to get information in a way that won't get you identified ... i wanted to put it to this forum for scrutiny before i actually put it into practice.
i am on several people's jw spam list.
.meaning they constantly send me the same things that go around in other circles, like the "send this to five friends" or they send the scriptures for the week's book study, or they send a "jws in the news" article or something like that.
This is a great idea! But how exactly does one go about sending something through an "anonymous email"?? I haven't a clue how to do that, but if I could, I would consider doing the same thing...........Mary - you can get one thru Yahoo. Just use a fictitious name, ect. There are other servers that have the same service.
ithinkisee - I tried something like this thru an anonymous email address - but to just one person I was trying to reach. She was on to it like a fly on sugar. She didn't ever know it was me that sent the article, but she replied to my secret email account to not bother her or send anything else. Their minds are so closed and paranoid. So I think if you tried it locally, they would soon be on to you and put out the word. But if u used the system that you suggest - emails to those you don't even know - it might work. Just don't use the same contacts again and again - they will just block sender - right. Let us know how it goes.
Jeff
i want to repeat an idea i have been mulling over for some time.
i responded on another thread with this same idea.
on that thread someone wanted to send a newly df friend some comforting message, but was afraid of revealing herself and leaving herself open to possible dfing.
I think it is a great idea. Get it worked out and I would be happy to go-between where I can.
Make it as simple as possible - I can't even figure out how to get a picture on my profile yet!!!
Jeff
my darling sister came over friday night.
my husband was at a conference at work on friday night, and i thought it would be a nice time for my little sister (15 years younger) to come over, hang out, eat some popcorn, and watch a movie.
we changed into our jammies, rented "the village", and piled into my fluffy, decorative pillow ridden bed, to watch the movie.
What are some other religions being persecuted?-ithinkisee
We could start with the jews - 6,000,000 dead by one mean dictator in Germany.
Or the kurds in Iraq.
The Mormons when the walk down the street.
Jeff
i have been away from "the truth" for quite some time (about 6 years) and i heard from my daughter and friend the other day that someone i knew back when had recently been disfellowshipped.
he was actually one of the elders on my original committee when i was having drama with that religion.
he was a good guy, always having gatherings at his house (superbowl, etc.
adelmall-
Why not just drop him a quick line - tell him you are an old friend, and that you have ordered him a copy of a book that greatly helped when you left the witness faith and felt free to read non-witness writings again. Leave it at that. Maybe give an anonymous email address that he can't trace if he wants to contact you after he reads the book.
Just my opinion
Jeff
On second thought it's a wonder the world didn't come to an end in 1975 if that's what we had to listen to.
Be careful there undercover - I liked most of those songs.
Course - I was a square dub in round hole..
Plus, I think you dangled a participle - sorry!
On second thought it's a wonder the world didn't come to an end in 1975 if that's what we had to listen to.
Jeff
when will it stop!
i know the answer, when i'm the one in the casket.. my good friend that my brother and i bowl with on mondays died saturday.
we went over today and the guy that runs the place ask, "did you hear about gurney?
Undecided - Condolences. I lost 9 in two years including my brother and Mom. No support from the so called 'friends' either, even before we took our leave from the borg.
Hang tight.
Jeff
the national average for publishers reporting feild service time in the untited states is just under 10 hours a month.
this has become the de facto standard for every member of the congregation.
if one fails to produce at the rate of others, he is "weak", his service is "divided", he puts the things of "this life" in "first place.".
The disconnect between what is published and what is practiced grows ever wider in this specific instance. How long before JW males discover that "reaching out" for the brass ring of the WTS is illusory, futile, and empty? Or have they already discovered that?
Good point, Zack. I became aware of that years back. I waited patiently for years to be 'made an elder'. I foolishly believed that the requirements as set forth in Paul's writings were the 'real' criteria. I finally saw that the real reason was politics. I went by the most prominent Pharassee's house nearly daily. In the months before they were 'appointed by Holy spirit' the elder-wannabees had to first sew their lips to the a** of he who had the power to make the recommendations. They were always there. Until appointment time came - then voila - no longer were they at his house. I never played the game - but spent years giving talks all over this part of the state, and handling accounts, literature, assistant bs conductor, ect., while they kissed a**. I asked them repeatedly why I was not 'qualified', and when they ventured a Wt article I rejected it, and asked for 'scriptural reasons'. I never got any, because there weren't any. It is all politics. 'Too bad, for her sins have massed themselves together clear up to heaven....' Frankly nothing was missed. At least I did not have to participate in organized hatred and disfellowship anyone. Thank God.
have been reading William Schnell book "30 Yrs. A Watchtower Slave" printed in 1959. He goes into a lot of the early history of the Society once Rutherford took over. 1925 Rutherford took the Bible students groups out the hands of the individual students and into his hands. He did away with the Elders till the 1970's when they would be appointed by the Society exclusively.
Balsam - have you read Penton's book - Apocalypse Delayed. ? I found that to be a great historical reference with less bile.
Jeff
hey yall just wanted to say hi.
today is my 1st day here.
i hope this is a good site for jehovahs people.
defd
Welcome - we like new people here.
I am not DF'd. I am not DA'd. I have never been reproved, reprimanded, rebuked, counselled, condemned either publicly or privately. I love God. I love Christ. I have spent 45 of the last 50 years of life believing what Jehovah's witnesses believe! I never made a friend outside the organization. I served as a pioneer and on the servant body for years. I have 10 or 12 public talks in my files with extensive notes that I have given dozen of times in dozens of places. I have turned in several pesky individuals who dared to violate Watchtower law, and some were Df'd for said offenses. I raised my daughter as a witness. I have read the Bible 20 or 30 times in those years as a witness. I was proud of all that until I discovered the truth about the truth! Now I am shunned and hated by my lifetime buddies, spurned on the local gossip and slander by those faithfull elders appointed by holy spirit in my congregation.
Help me!!!! if u can! Can you speak to me? I am not a sister who wants to bed meet you, but can you help me anyway?
I won't mention the UN, Child abuse, or Rand Corp scandals. Or, the faithless translation of the NWT. I promise. I would never bring up in our conversation that the Wt has attempted to void the sacrifice of Christ by taking away His mediatorship. Nor will I mention the mix and match blood policies, or those who have died for that cause. Or 1799, 1841, 1875, 1881, 1883, 1914, oops forgot 607BCE, 1919, 1920, 1925, 1935, and those failed lies promises.
So will you talk to me?
Jeff
since i am sort of late to the party this has probably been beaten to death and if it has just kick this thread to the curb.
i was 11 years old in 1975 and i remember being scared silly the whole year.
i mean there was so much hype about it and the tension in the air was so thick it was unreal.
Don't know why that all highlighted like that - sorry